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Reference number ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) © ISO 2008 FINAL DRAFT ISO/TC 138/SC 4 Secretariat: NEN Voting begins on: 2008-10-06 Voting terminates on: 2008-12-06 INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ISO/FDIS 17484-2 Plastics piping systems — Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations — Part 2: Code of practice Systèmes de canalisations en matières plastiques — Tubes multicouches et leurs assemblages destinés à l'alimentation en gaz à l'intérieur des bâtiments — Partie 2: Code de pratique ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) PDF disclaimer This PDF file may contain embedded typefaces. In accordance with Adobe's licensing policy, this file may be printed or viewed but shall not be edited unless the typefaces which are embedded are licensed to and installed on the computer performing the editing. In downloading this file, parties accept therein the responsibility of not infringing Adobe's licensing policy. The ISO Central Secretariat accepts no liability in this area. 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ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) iv © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved Contents Page Foreword ............................................................................................................................................................. v Introduction ....................................................................................................................................................... vi 1 Scope...................................................................................................................................................... 1 2 Normative references ........................................................................................................................... 1 3 Terms and definitions........................................................................................................................... 1 4 Design .................................................................................................................................................... 2 4.1 Reference to installation standards .................................................................................................... 2 4.2 Pipework components.......................................................................................................................... 2 5 Location of pipework ............................................................................................................................ 2 5.1 General requirements for location of pipework................................................................................. 2 5.2 Protection in case of fire ...................................................................................................................... 3 5.3 Additional safety devices ..................................................................................................................... 3 6 Materials and components................................................................................................................... 3 7 Construction .......................................................................................................................................... 4 8 Jointing procedures.............................................................................................................................. 4 8.1 General ................................................................................................................................................... 4 8.2 Installation process .............................................................................................................................. 5 9 Pressure testing and commissioning ................................................................................................. 5 9.1 General recommendations................................................................................................................... 5 9.2 Recommendations relating to the safety of persons and property during testing........................ 5 9.3 Tightness testing .................................................................................................................................. 5 9.4 Test fluids .............................................................................................................................................. 6 9.5 Test conditions...................................................................................................................................... 6 9.6 Strength testing..................................................................................................................................... 6 10 Storage and handling ........................................................................................................................... 7 10.1 General ................................................................................................................................................... 7 10.2 Storage ................................................................................................................................................... 7 10.3 Handling ................................................................................................................................................. 7 Bibliography ....................................................................................................................................................... 8 ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved v Foreword ISO (the International Organization for Standardization) is a worldwide federation of national standards bodies (ISO member bodies). The work of preparing International Standards is normally carriedout through ISO technical committees. Each member body interested in a subject for which a technical committee has been established has the right to be represented on that committee. International organizations, governmental and non-governmental, in liaison with ISO, also take part in the work. ISO collaborates closely with the International Electrotechnical Commission (IEC) on all matters of electrotechnical standardization. International Standards are drafted in accordance with the rules given in the ISO/IEC Directives, Part 2. The main task of technical committees is to prepare International Standards. Draft International Standards adopted by the technical committees are circulated to the member bodies for voting. Publication as an International Standard requires approval by at least 75 % of the member bodies casting a vote. Attention is drawn to the possibility that some of the elements of this document may be the subject of patent rights. ISO shall not be held responsible for identifying any or all such patent rights. ISO 17484-2 was prepared by Technical Committee ISO/TC 138, Plastics pipes, fittings and valves for the transport of fluids, Subcommittee SC 4, Plastics pipes and fittings for the supply of gaseous fuels. ISO 17484 consists of the following parts, under the general title Plastics piping systems — Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations: ⎯ Part 1: Specifications for systems ⎯ Part 2: Code of practice ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) vi © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved Introduction ISO 17484 applies to multilayer pipe systems intended to be installed inside buildings. The scope of this part of ISO 17484 has been limited to a maximum operating pressure (MOP) of 5 bar (500 kPa). Although these materials are able to withstand higher pressures, a lower maximum working pressure has been selected taking into account use for gas within buildings. Therefore, a rather high safety factor has been incorporated into the functional requirements. Currently, in some countries multilayer piping is installed only under specific conditions, but this is not the case everywhere. Generally, interest in multilayer pipe systems has been increasing. Cost-effective material installation cost is a good argument for the reconsideration of conventional installation techniques. Compared with traditional materials and installation techniques, multilayer systems offer ease of installation and are more cost-effective. The working pressure of gas in buildings for domestic or commercial use is usually not more than 100 mbar (10 kPa). Only in very rare cases is a higher working pressure applied. When higher pressures are applied, it is very important to take into account national regulations for the fitting of (industrial) gas installations. It is likely that new pipe constructions or materials like multilayer pipe and PEX systems will be accepted in more countries in the coming years. At present, in the majority of countries only steel and copper pipework are permitted for gas supply within buildings, other materials being forbidden explicitly. However, it would be expected that national standards and laws will be changed in favour of the application of new installation techniques. FINAL DRAFT INTERNATIONAL STANDARD ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 1 Plastics piping systems — Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations — Part 2: Code of practice 1 Scope This part of ISO 17484 specifies the recommended practice for the installation of multilayer pipe systems in accordance with ISO 17484-1. It is applicable to pipe systems used in buildings to supply gas with a maximum operating pressure (MOP) up to and including 5 bar1). This part of ISO 17484 specifies common basic principles for indoor gas systems. Users of this part of ISO 17484 should be aware that more detailed national standards and/or codes of practice can exist in ISO member countries. These existing regulations, as well as new national regulations, take precedence over this part of ISO 17484. It is intended to be applied in association with these national standards and/or codes of practice setting out the above-mentioned basic principles. 2 Normative references The following referenced documents are indispensable for the application of this document. For dated references, only the edition cited applies. For undated references, the latest edition of the referenced document (including any amendments) applies. ISO 17484-1, Plastics piping systems — Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations with a maximum operating pressure up to and including 5 bar (500 kPa) — Part 1: Specifications for systems 3 Terms and definitions For the purposes of this document, the terms and definitions given in ISO 17484-1 and the following apply. 3.1 equipotential bond means of ensuring that metallic gas pipework and other metallic parts of the building are at the same potential NOTE For safety reasons, this equipotential bonding is connected to earth. 1) 1 bar = 0,1 MPa = 0,1 N/mm2 = 105 N/m2. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) 2 © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 4 Design 4.1 Reference to installation standards This part of ISO 17484 gives functional recommendations for the design of gas pipework within buildings. In addition to this part of ISO 17484, more detailed national standards shall be applied. NOTE 1 Installation techniques differ from country to country. These different techniques are often based on “installation tradition”, differences in the construction of buildings, differences in climatic conditions, etc. For these reasons it is difficult to produce a general standard for installation. This is also why EN 1775 gives only functional recommendations. In many cases EN 1775 offers more than one solution. Each national standards body may select the most appropriate possibility that could be described in a more detailed way in a national standard. National restrictions relative to the MOP shall be taken into account. NOTE 2 Additional safety devices are required by some national standards bodies, for example excess flow valves, thermal valves or overpressure valves. 4.2 Pipework components The pipework components shall be appropriate for: ⎯ the types of gases being distributed; NOTE Particular attention should be given to the content of hydrogen sulfide, and to water content, dust content and water/hydrocarbon dew point with respect to materials, drainage of low points and filtration. ⎯ the pipework design pressure; ⎯ the location of the pipework; ⎯ the pipework temperature under normal operating conditions. 5 Location of pipework 5.1 General requirements for location of pipework The location of the pipework shall minimize the risk of damage caused by, for example mechanical impact, UV exposure, accelerated corrosion, chemical attack, extreme temperatures and lightning, or else additional safety measures shall be applied. The route and location of pipework built within the internal structure shall be such that third party damage is minimized and that any building movement does not lead to failure. The route of pipework in buildings should be located in ventilated spaces. Ventilation shall be adequate to safely dilute any small gas leak taking due account of the density of the gas (heavier than air, e.g. LPG, or lighter than air, e.g. natural gas). Where it is not possible to achieve adequate ventilation, other solutions shall be applied, e.g. ventilated sleeves, ducts, pipes or the filling of the space around the pipe with inert materials, etc. The route of the pipework shall be as short as practicable and the number of joints kept to a minimum. Theuse of diagonal routes should always be avoided. Where pipework is concealed, particular attention shall be given to the mode of construction and to corrosion protection of the pipework. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 3 The position of the pipework in relation to other services shall be such that it can function properly and be used with safety. Pipework shall not be located near high voltage conductors or hot or chilled water systems, nor shall it be subjected to vibrations unless appropriate precautions are taken. NOTE Spaces reserved for other uses, such as lift shafts, garbage chutes, transformers, sewage pipes and bomb shelters, should be avoided unless specific precautions are taken. Where temperature change and building movements can lead to significant stresses on pipework, adequate provisions shall be made for moving the pipework. The effects of lightning shall be taken into consideration when designing the pipework. Where the distributed gas is wet or has a low vapour pressure, pipework shall be protected against frost and/or condensation and siphons shall be fitted at low points. 5.2 Protection in case of fire The designer shall consider the possibility of an outbreak of fire at a building where gas pipework is in use, causing damage to the fabric of the building and, consequently or separately, to the gas pipework. The design objective shall be to minimize the likelihood of an explosion or serious aggravation of the fire. The design objective may be achieved, for example, by the use of one or more of the following: ⎯ accessible manual means of isolation; ⎯ automatic means of isolation; ⎯ location of all or part of the pipework in an enclosure providing protection in the event of fire; ⎯ coating pipework with a protective material to enable the pipework to withstand high temperatures for a given period of time. NOTE In the event of fire, even if rupture does not occur, the pipework shall be carefully inspected and tested. 5.3 Additional safety devices Where required by risk assessment, specific additional protection shall be installed to protect against the consequence of failure of a component of the pipework. NOTE This may be a safety device (for example, one that protects against excessive temperatures or excess flow) or a passive protection measure (e.g. enclosure of the pipework). The number, location and sizing of excess flow device(s) shall be assessed and should be optimized during design to allow such a device to actuate when a failure of a pipework component occurs and to cope with the locally allowed pressure drop values. This process shall rely on accurate pressure drop values given by system/component manufacturers, e.g. in design specification recommendations. 6 Materials and components The MOP for multilayer pipe gas systems is 5 bar (500 kPa). The system shall meet the requirements of ISO 17484-1. PE-X systems are suitable for the whole temperature range specified in ISO 17484-1, i.e. −20 °C to +60 °C. The manufacturer shall be consulted with respect to prolonged operation at temperatures above 40 °C and up to 60 °C, and below 0 °C. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) 4 © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 7 Construction This part of ISO 17484 gives functional requirements for the construction of pipework. National standards shall be applied if available. Special attention shall be paid to the following. ⎯ The assembly instructions of the manufacturer shall be followed. ⎯ During the installation of the pipework, care shall be taken to prevent the ingress of foreign matter (e.g. dirt, water, other detrimental substances) into the pipes or fittings. ⎯ The pipework shall be protected during installation. ⎯ If it is foreseen that pipework may be damaged as a result of other construction work after installation, the pipework shall be protected adequately. EXAMPLE Open pipework on a floor that has not yet been embedded in concrete could be easily damaged by construction workers walking over the pipework. ⎯ Only appropriate tools, accessories and procedures specific to a technique and approved by the pipe and/or fitting manufacturer shall be used to perform joints. ⎯ Multilayer M-pipes shall be connected to the equipotential bonding system of the house. NOTE Some types of M-pipe systems are electrically earthed during installation of the fittings. For these systems, connection to the equipotential bonding system is not necessary. 8 Jointing procedures 8.1 General Multilayer and PEX pipes are generally delivered as a complete system. The pipes, fittings, tools, etc. would have been tested as a complete system. However, components are generally not compatible with systems of another brand. Installation operatives applying different systems should be aware of this lack of compatibility. Repair instructions are supplied by the manufacturer because of the lack of compatibility. The manufacturer shall provide a transition fitting intended to be connected to a standardized system, the connection complying with the relevant standards, e.g. ISO 7-1. NOTE Some countries require standardized dimensions (outside diameter and/or wall thickness). Standardization of dimensions at the international level is not yet available. Special attention should be paid to: ⎯ assembly instructions given by the manufacturer; ⎯ non-interchangeability of pipes and/or fittings of one system manufacturer with pipes and/or fittings of another system manufacturer, except where interchangeability is indicated by each of the system manufacturers; ⎯ use of only those tools, accessories (e.g. jaws and collars) and procedures which are appropriate to the jointing system being applied by the installation operative; ⎯ connection of multilayer M-pipes (which comprise at least one metallic layer, e.g. PEX-Al-PEX or PE-AL- PE) to the equipotential bonding system of the building. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 5 8.2 Installation process The installation process should take into account the manufacturer’s recommendations. 9 Pressure testing and commissioning 9.1 General recommendations Pipework shall be put into service only if the tests specified in Clause 9 have been successfully carried out. The tests shall be carried out on the whole pipework or on separate sections. Before testing, all pipework open ends shall be sealed. Any leaktight device used to seal the pipework shall be capable of withstanding the test pressure. In general, means of isolation in the closed position should not be assumed to be leaktight. Tests shall be conducted by the authorized person identified as being responsible for their execution. Test reporting shall entail the preparation of a test report by the authorized person. This report shall enable the section of the pipework concerned to be clearly identified. It should give in detail the date, the type of tests performed, the readings measured (duration, pressure, temperature, etc.) and the results obtained. In cases where the results of tests are negative, leaks shall be identified by appropriate means, for example use of an appropriate leak-detection fluid. The leak-detection fluid shall not adversely affect the material of the pipes and fittings. Defective parts shall be replaced or repaired. After elimination of leaks, the test shall be repeated until the results are positive. NOTE For components made of stainless steel, the level of chloride ions in the leak-detection fluid shall be below 30 mg/l. 9.2 Recommendations relating to the safety of persons and property during testing The test procedure shall not jeopardize the safety of persons and property. Before testing, the authorized person shall have full knowledgeof the pipework and shall verify the validity of information about the pipework. The authorized person shall ensure, or have certificates or documents attesting, that the pipework has been constructed in compliance with legal requirements and regulations in force and in accordance with the design specifications. Depending on the test pressure selected, the type of joint(s) used and the location of the pipework, the person authorized to carry out tests with a fluid under pressure shall judge whether it is necessary to first carry out non-destructive tests. The applied test pressure shall not exceed the pressure that the pipework is able to withstand. If necessary, appliances shall be disconnected or isolated. Any sudden increase in pressure within the pipework to be tested shall be avoided. 9.3 Tightness testing All pipework shall be subjected to a tightness test. The applied tightness test pressure shall be at least equal to the operating pressure. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) 6 © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 9.4 Test fluids The test fluid to be used shall be either air, inert gas (e.g. nitrogen) or the gas to be distributed, as follows: a) Use of inert gas When inert gas or air is used from a storage vessel under pressure, precautions shall be taken to ensure that the pressure inside the pipework does not exceed the specified test pressure; b) Utilization of the gas to be distributed Where the use of air or inert gas is not practicable, it may be acceptable to use the gas to be distributed as a test fluid for tightness tests carried out at operating pressure, provided that all joints are easily accessible. If the test is not immediately followed by commissioning of the pipework, the gas to be distributed shall be purged from the pipework and the pipework shall be sealed after purging. 9.5 Test conditions Test fluid temperature and atmospheric pressure can affect strength testing and tightness testing because of their effects on measured pressures. Variation in these parameters shall be taken into account in the assessment of the results of the tests. 9.6 Strength testing The strength test shall be carried out at high pressure to assure the integrity of a system. This test does not intend to determine the long-term strength of the pipework, but to detect installation faults, such as unpressed fittings or serious pipe damage. In practice, a strength test of approximately 1 h will be sufficient for the minimum pressures specified in Table 1. The minimum pressure for the strength test is given in Table 1. At higher test pressures the testing time could be reduced considerably, up to a minimum testing duration of 30 s. The strength test pressure (STP) is a function of the MOP, as shown in Table 1. Table 1 — Strength test pressure as a function of the maximum operating pressure MOP bar STP bar 2 < MOP u 5 > 1,40 × MOP 0,1 < MOP u 2 > 1,75 × MOP MOP u 0,1 W 2,5 × MOP The strength test may be performed simultaneously with the tightness test, using the same fluid at the same pressure level of the strength test. If the strength test is not combined with the tightness test, the strength test shall precede it. If the strength test is not combined with the tightness test, the duration of the strength test shall be to the time required to confirm, by appropriate means, that there has been no rupture in the pipework. All fittings integral with the pipework, such as regulators, meters, means of isolation, safety devices, etc., which are not capable of withstanding the pressure selected for the test, shall be removed prior to the test. The means of isolation shall be capable of passing this test. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved 7 In this case, either the fitting shall be replaced with a section of pipework, or parts of the pipework situated upstream and downstream of the removed component shall be sealed and tested separately. Appliances shall be disconnected before the strength test is performed. 10 Storage and handling 10.1 General Multilayer pipes are available as coiled pipe and in straight lengths (only the larger sizes, generally). Care shall be taken during the transport, handling and storage of pipes, fittings and other items to avoid damage. Care shall be taken to prevent the ingress of foreign matter (e.g. dirt, water and other detrimental substances) into the pipes or fittings. 10.2 Storage Pipes and fittings shall be stored in such a way as to minimize the possibility of the material being damaged by crushing, piercing or exposure to direct sunlight. Contact with aggressive reagents or solvents shall be avoided. The manufacturer’s storage recommendations shall be followed. Fittings shall be stored in their original packaging until ready for use. Straight lengths of pipes stored shall be stacked on a reasonably flat surface, free from sharp objects, stones or projections likely to deform or damage these pipes. Stacking shall never be a cause of distortion of the pipe cross-section. NOTE Covering of the pipe to protect it against UV radiation can sometimes create excessive heat which can also be detrimental to the pipe performance. 10.3 Handling Dragging of pipes or coils along rough surfaces shall be avoided. ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) 8 © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved Bibliography [1] ISO 7-1, Pipe threads where pressure-tight joints are made on the threads — Part 1: Dimensions, tolerances and designation [2] ISO/TS 10839, Polyethylene pipes and fittings for the supply of gaseous fuels — Code of practice for design, handling and installation [3] EN 1775, Gas supply — Gas pipework for buildings — Maximum operating pressure less than or equal to 5 bar — Functional recommendations ISO/FDIS 17484-2:2008(E) ICS 23.040.20; 23.040.45; 91.140.40 Price based on 8 pages © ISO 2008 – All rights reserved Report of voting on ISO/DIS FORM 13 (ISO) Page 2 of 2 REPORT OF VOTING ON ISO/DIS 17484-2 Closing date of voting 2008-05-21 ISO/TC 138 /SC 4 Secretariat Kiwa Gas Technology A report shall be returned to ISO/CS no later than 3 months after the closing date of voting on the DIS, whether or not comments have been reviewed and/or a new text has been prepared. Preliminary report (submitted in those cases where comments are still to be considered and/or a decision has not yet been taken, or where it is decided that the nature of comments indicates a need for further consultation and/or reversion to a previous project development stage). To be followed by a 'Final report'. Any preliminary report is for ISO/CS for information, and is not circulated to member bodies) Final report (submitted either immediately, when all comments have been reviewed and a decision can be taken, or following a 'Preliminary report'. The final report is circulated by ISO/CS to member bodies, and is distributed with any associated DIS or FDIS text) 1 Result of the voting The above-mentioned document was circulated to member bodies with a request that the ISO Central Secretariat be informed whether or not member bodies were in favour of registration of the DIS as a Final Draft International Standard or for publication in the case of unanimous approval. The vote closed on the date indicated above. The replies listed in annex A have been received. 2 3 Comments received Observations of the secretariat See annex B (if appropriate) 4 Decision of the Chairman Preliminary report (no annexes required) The comments are under review and/or a decision on further procedure has not yet been taken The project is to revert to the Preparatory Stage (a new working draft will bedeveloped) The project is to revert to the Committee Stage (a new committee draft will be developed) Final report Having received 100% approval from the member bodies voting, the DIS is approved for direct publication without change other than editorial (no FDIS vote) (Option not applicable to projects progressing under the Vienna Agreement) A revised text is to be submitted to ISO/CS for the approval procedure (FDIS vote) A revised text is to be submitted to ISO/CS for a further enquiry (DIS) vote Remarks (e.g. observations on how comments were reviewed, date by which a decision is to be taken, date when a text is expected) Enclosures Annex A ISO/TC138/SC4 doc. N1503 Result of voting ISO DIS 17484-2 Annex B ISO/TC138/SC4 doc. N1518 Decisions on comments on ISO DIS 17484-2 Signature of the Secretary J.B.W. Wikkerink Date 2008-07-28 Signature of the Chairman M. Wolters Date 2008-07-28 FORM 13 (ISO) Page 1 of 1 ISO/TC 138/SC 4 Title: Plastics pipes and fittings for the supply of gaseous fuels Secretariat: Kiwa Gas Technology Attn. J.B.W. Wikkerink PO BOX 137 7300 AC APELDOORN NETHERLANDS Tel: +31 55 5393445 fax: +31 55 5393335 e-mail: iso.tc138.sc4-secr@kiwa.nl REQUESTED ACTION Circulated to P- and O-members, and to technical committees and organizations in liaison for: information comments by [date] voting (P-members only: ballot form attached) by P-members of the technical committee or subcommittee concerned have an obligation to vote. Title: Result of voting on ISO DIS 17484-2: Plastics piping systems -- Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations -- Part 2: Code of practice Source: ISO/CS Project(s): Status: Additional information Date 2008-05-26 Reference number ISO/TC 138/SC 4 N 1503 Supersedes document This document is still under study and subject to change. It should not be used for reference purposes. Ballot Information Reference ISO/DIS 17484-2 Committee ISO/TC 138/SC 4 Edition number 1 Vienna agreement English title Plastics piping systems -- Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations -- Part 2: Code of pratice French title Systèmes de canalisations en matières plastiques -- Tubes multicouches et leurs assemblages destinés à l'alimentation en gaz à l'intérieur des bâtiments -- Partie 2: Code de pratique Start date 2007-12-21 End date 2008-05-21 Opened by ISO/CS on 2007-12-21 00:00:25 Closed by ISO/CS on 2008-05-23 00:01:12 Status Closed Voting stage Enquiry Version number 1 Vote in parallel with Joint technical work with Committee interested in technical work Note Result of voting P-Members voting: 17 in favour out of 19 = 89 % (requirement >= 66.66%) (P-Members having abstained are not counted in this vote.) Member bodies voting: 2 negative votes out of 20 = 10 % (requirement <= 25%) Approved Votes by members Country Member Status Approval Disapproval Abstention Australia SA P-Member X Austria ON P-Member X * Belgium NBN P-Member X Canada SCC P-Member X China SAC P-Member X Colombia ICONTEC P-Member X Czech Republic CNI P-Member X Denmark DS P-Member X Finland SFS P-Member X France AFNOR P-Member X * Germany DIN P-Member X * Hungary MSZT P-Member X Ireland NSAI O-Member X Israel SII P-Member X Italy UNI P-Member X Japan JISC P-Member X Kenya KEBS P-Member X Korea, Republic of KATS P-Member X Malaysia DSM P-Member X Netherlands NEN Secretariat X Poland PKN P-Member X Russian Federation GOST R X South Africa SABS P-Member X Spain AENOR P-Member X Sweden SIS P-Member X Switzerland SNV P-Member X United Kingdom BSI P-Member X * USA ANSI P-Member P-Member TOTALS Total of P-Members voting: 19 17 2 6 TOTALS 18 2 7 (*) A comment file was submitted with this vote Comments from Voters Austria ON P-Member Austria(ON).doc France AFNOR P-Member France(AFNOR).doc Germany DIN P-Member Germany(DIN).doc United Kingdom BSI P-Member UnitedKingdom(BSI).doc Comments from Commenters ISO ISO.doc Page 1 of 4 ISO/TC 138/SC 4 Title: Plastics pipes and fittings for the supply of gaseous fuels Secretariat: Kiwa Gas Technology Attn. J.B.W. Wikkerink PO BOX 137 7300 AC APELDOORN NETHERLANDS Tel: +31 55 5393445 fax: +31 55 5393335 e-mail: iso.tc138.sc4-secr@kiwa.nl REQUESTED ACTION Circulated to P- and O-members, and to technical committees and organizations in liaison for: information comments by [date] voting (P-members only: ballot form attached) by P-members of the technical committee or subcommittee concerned have an obligation to vote. Title: Decisions on comments on ISO DIS 17484-2: : Plastics piping systems -- Multilayer pipe systems for indoor gas installations -- Part 2: Code of practice Source: ISO TC138 SC4 Secretariat Project(s): Status: Additional information Date 2008-07-28 Reference number ISO/TC 138/SC 4 N 1518 Supersedes document This document is still under study and subject to change. It should not be used for reference purposes. Template for comments and secretariat observations Date:2008-07-28 Document: ISO_DIS_17484-2 N1518 1 2 (3) 4 5 (6) (7) MB1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/ Table/ Note (e.g. Table 1) Type of comm ent2 Comment (justification for change) by the MB Proposed change by the MB Secretariat observations on each comment submitted 1 MB = Member body (enter the ISO 3166 two-letter country code, e.g. FR for France; comments from the CMC editing unit are identified by ***) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. CEN electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Page 2 of 4 DE ge Germany disagrees for the following reasons DE ge 1) ISO 17484-2 is a standard on a very low quality level. Worldwide we have several principles and levels of security. The differences in the security level in the countries is very distinctive. For that reason it makes no sense to establish Standards with low level rules. For gas installations inside buildings, the individual national requirements should remain valid. 2) Concerning gas installations inside buildings, the differences between especially the European countries (in respect of the national laws and security philosophies) are huge. A International standardization project is only acceptable if all the national rules shall be taken into account. For a project with the goal of harmonization of these requirements, in our opinion the differences are too manifold. See 4.1 references to national installation guidelines have been made FR Ge Multilayer pipes are not allowed in France for indoor installations and there is no expertise on that subject. To be noted AT entire draft ge Plastics pipes for indoor gas installations are not in use in Austria due to certain safety aspects. Therefore it does not make sense to "accept" the contents of the document with an abstention. To be noted ** Title 2nd element Restore "with a maximum operating pressure up to and including 5 bar (500 kPa)". Delete "5 bar" when ISO 17848-1 comes up for revision We have to follow the policy of ISO TC 138 SC 4 ** 1 and throughout para 1 ed "this International Standard", "the present International Standard" Change to "this part of ISO 17484" or "ISO 17484 (all parts)" as appropriate Accepted ** 3 ed Some definitions, e.g. 3.1.1, 3.1.2, 3.1.3, are repeated fromISO 17484-1 Delete these definitions, inserting the introductory phrase, "For the purposes of this document, the terms and definitions given in ISO 17484-1 and the Accepted Template for comments and secretariat observations Date:2008-07-28 Document: ISO_DIS_17484-2 N1518 1 2 (3) 4 5 (6) (7) MB1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/ Table/ Note (e.g. Table 1) Type of comm ent2 Comment (justification for change) by the MB Proposed change by the MB Secretariat observations on each comment submitted 1 MB = Member body (enter the ISO 3166 two-letter country code, e.g. FR for France; comments from the CMC editing unit are identified by ***) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. CEN electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Page 3 of 4 following apply." ** 3 ed If terms have been defined elsewhere in other contexts, the definitions should be preceded by "‹plastics piping systems›" in "elbow" brackets (see Directives, Part 2, Annex D), if they cannot be borrowed for use in ISO 17484-2 Will be checked Only the definition on equipotential bondi remains ** 3.2.1 and throughout ed "1 bar" The SI unit for pressure used in International Standards is the pascal. Delete "1 bar", insert "0,1 MPa" (see ISO 80000-4, 15.1); alternatively, note the "bar" equivalent in a footnote We have to follow the policy of ISO TC 138 SC 4 GB 4.1 1st sentence Ed The standard is applicable to ‘within buildings’ rather than just houses. Change to: ‘This standard gives functional recommendations for the design of gas pipework within buildings.’ Accepted ** 4.2 and throughout ed "sulphide" Change to "sulfide" (IUPAC rule) Accepted GB 5.2 Te In the event of fire, even if rupture of the pipework does not occur there is the probability of damage that might compromise future integrity of the system. Should it be stated that in the event of fire the system should be carefully inspected and tested if it is intended to put all or part of the system back into service? Consider. The scope of this practice has been restricted to new build systems. Although the information could be useful it does not belong to this code of practice but might be incorporated in a part on maintenance and repair. Anyway metallic systems shall be also checked after fire. Proposal: To incorporate a note on this subject. GB 6 Para 2 Te It is stated that PE-X is suitable for the whole temperature range. It is preferable to state this. Suggested wording: ‘PE-X systems are suitable for the whole Accepted Template for comments and secretariat observations Date:2008-07-28 Document: ISO_DIS_17484-2 N1518 1 2 (3) 4 5 (6) (7) MB1 Clause No./ Subclause No./ Annex (e.g. 3.1) Paragraph/ Figure/ Table/ Note (e.g. Table 1) Type of comm ent2 Comment (justification for change) by the MB Proposed change by the MB Secretariat observations on each comment submitted 1 MB = Member body (enter the ISO 3166 two-letter country code, e.g. FR for France; comments from the CMC editing unit are identified by ***) 2 Type of comment: ge = general te = technical ed = editorial NOTE Columns 1, 2, 4, 5 are compulsory. CEN electronic balloting commenting template/version 2001-10 Page 4 of 4 temperature range specified in ISO 17484-1, ie - 20 °C to + 60 °C.’ ** 6 and throughout ed "part 1 of this standard" Change to "ISO 17484-1" Accepted ** 7 and throughout ed "this standard" Change to "this part of ISO 17484" or "ISO 17484 (all parts)" as appropriate Accepted ** 9.1 Note ed "Cl−" "chloride" or "chloride ion" more readily comprehensible to a non-chemical readership? Accepted GB 9.1 Last para Te It should be stated that the use of leak detection fluid shall not adversely the material of the pipes and fittings. Add ‘shall not adversely the material of the pipes and fittings’ after ‘leak detection fluid’. Accepted GB 9.6 5th para Te It is advisable to specify a time limit for applying this strength test. Consider specifying a time limit, 1 h is suggested. 1 h is reasonable. Accepted GB 9.6 6th para Te It is stated that all fittings etc not capable of withstanding the test pressure should be removed prior to the test. However, the means of isolation must be capable of passing this test. Modify wording to reflect this. Consider. Accepted